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Wireless Risks & Safer Technology Solutions

January 22, 202426 min read
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·        Free public education webinars twice a month: https://www.ma4safetech.org/events

Summary

In this episode, I introduce you to Cecelia Doucette.

Cecelia (Cece) Doucette, Director of Massachusetts for Safe Technology, works with schools, communities, municipalities and legislatures to address wireless radiation and public health.

She is also Education Services Director with the international non-profit Wireless Education, which offers affordable 30-minute on-line training for Schools & Families. See wirelesseducation.org.

Cece was honored to co-chair the technology panel for the NIH Health in Buildings Roundtable Conference, and present state and local policy at the EMF Medical Conference.

She has been featured on Genius of Wellness, Boston25 News, PBS, O’Dwyer’s, EMF Warriors and in the films Generation Zapped and Wi-Fi Refugees..

Today she speaks about:

Wireless radiation risks and public health. (0:15)

Wireless radiation's health effects. (4:25)

Wi-Fi safety in schools. (7:54)

Reducing EMF exposure in homes, schools, and personal lives. (12:12)

Creating a safe sleep sanctuary from Wi-Fi radiation. (18:48)

Wireless radiation and its effects on health. (24:26)

Reducing exposure to EMF radiation. (29:50)

Join me for this episode of Mommy Heal Thyself to learn about wireless risks and safer technology solutions.

Transcript
(Note, this was transcribed using a transcription software and may not reflect the exact words used in the podcast)

Intro  0:00 

Welcome to Mommy Heal Thyself.  We featured guests that provide you with the tools, resources and strategies you need to say no to a life of pain and suffering all forms of preventable disease, toxic drugs and unnecessary surgeries. We hope to inspire you to boldly reclaim your ability to heal, and to serve ones to love.

Dr Michelle  0:18 

Welcome everyone to another episode of mommy heal thyself. Today I have a special guest with me her name is CeCe to set. She's the director of Massachusetts for safe technology. She works with schools, communities, municipalities, and legislatures to address the wireless radiation and public health. She's also the Education Services Director with the international nonprofit wireless education, which offers affordable 30 minute online training for schools and families. She is honored as the co chair of the technology panel for the NIH health in buildings roundtable conference and the present state and local policy at EMF medical con medical conference. She's also been featured on genius of wellness, Boston, 25 News. EMF warriors and in the film's generation zadt and Wi Fi refugees. Welcome, Casey, thank you for being with us.

 

CeCe  1:19 

Thank you Dr. Gamble. It's such an honor to be here with you. I really appreciate the opportunity.

 

Dr Michelle  1:24 

Well, I really appreciate you and for you guys in the audience. You do not know this but this is like our third take because interestingly enough, we're here talking about Wi Fi and our dependency on Wi Fi. At least my dependency on Wi Fi is tremendous. I live out in the country and Wi Fi goes in and out sometimes. So it's very phenomenal. That we have CeCe here to talk with us about the other side of Wi Fi that many of us do not know about the risks, because many of us are very much focused on the benefits and we don't realize that there are risks to every technology and in particular this technology. So Cece, thank you for being with us today.

 

CeCe  2:08 

Oh, it's such a pleasure to be here. And you're right. We've all been given this amazing technology and taught all the benefits, especially convenience without really understanding the risks. And you know, I was very guilty of it too. I spent eight years bringing wireless technology into my children's schools at the time when the ad tech wireless industry was pushing in the 21st century classroom. And here in Ashland, Massachusetts were a small town. Our budgets had already been cut to the bone year after year. And so we didn't have money to get all this tech that we were being told our kids would need to succeed in the world. So if you could be moms, we jumped in and started doing fundraisers and we got wireless infrastructure, and we got iPads and Chromebooks and smart boards and minis and Apple TV. And what we thought was great. And then one night at Book Group, a girlfriend of mine who's an electrical engineer. She was reading a book called zapped, like you stuck your finger in a socket zapped by an Louise Gittleman and she was learning that there are indeed biological effects from exposing ourselves to this manmade energy. And it was both groups I just made a mental note of it, but then not long after that, another source crossed my desk and I thought, wow, if there's anything to this I want to know because I literally spent eight years bringing it in. So I met a technical and professional writer by trade and I just thought, Is there any science to this? And I was astounded. Dr. Gamble to find literally 1000s of studies all over the world showing extensive biological harm. And so when I started doing the research, I'm finding that there are effects on the brain. So this is a little graph that we have. And if you go to Massachusetts for safe technology, you'll find everything that I'm talking about easily teed up. I do two free public education webinars a month that anybody can come for a little bit longer training. That's a two hour session, but here's what it's doing to our brain. And the good news is once we learn a little bit, we might make some changes and we'll walk you through that too. But insomnia is huge. Anxiety, depression, suicidal ideation, like we've never seen before. And even before the pandemic that got so many people anxious, we were already at epidemic levels in our advanced societies with technology, difficulty concentrating, memory problems, brain fog, chronic fatigue. So then the ears the ringing in the ears, humming are sharp pains. You might become sensitive to all noises once that starts happening. And then for our skin rashes, itching, burning facial flushing, pressure in the eyes twitching, deteriorating vision, cataracts, and our poor heart you know, we are bio electrical beings and the heart some people are getting palpitations or arrhythmia their heart might go too fast or too slow depending on their own individual biology. Or I feel like somebody's sitting on your chest with chest pain and pressure, higher blood pressure, you know, so there's a lot and in the long term, so those are all short term MICROWAVE SICKNESS symptoms in the long term, we're seeing child and adult cancers. We are seeing Alzheimer's coming on at earlier and earlier ages. This radiation from our wireless is a neurotoxin. And then infertility is that big one, and it was actually the infertility. Studies that got me on my feet as I'm reading through the science and I'm saying in certain studies, they've taken male human sperm and expose it to a laptop with the antennas radiating and it changed the DNA, which is the roadmap to grow proper anything from a person to a plant to a pollinator. It slowed the motility of the sperm, and it caused apoptosis or programmed cell death, which means it was killing the sperm in four hours of exposure. And I've got to be kidding me. We could just send our oldest daughter off to college with her MacBook, which she was using right on top of her reproductive organs. And our youngest who just got into high school. And so for Christmas, we gave her a laptop and can we give her a leg up? Yeah. And so now we have additional fertility studies with wireless radiation. And Kaiser Permanente, for example, did a really good study that that showed people who are using wireless technology are having higher miscarriage rates. So I was just stupefied. By all of this. How could this be? And I was raising my little hand with my school's going guys. I think we had a problem here and I was the grant coordinator for our schools at that point. I had run our Education Foundation for years. Okay, quick, fun fact was zoom. If I raise my hand like that, the little yellow hand symbol comes up. And then it switches the camera. Is it binding cue to answer a question? Yeah, fun fact that just started happening last month.

 

Dr Michelle  7:39 

I've never I was like Bob did I do?

 

CeCe  7:44 

I talked with my hands. So I raised my hand with my school and said, guys, I think we have a problem here. And crickets. And I figured this out over the summer. And that happens to be for the administration the busiest time of the school year because they've got to close one fiscal year open the next. They've got to get all their staffing, all their supplies, all their professional training crammed into these short eight or 10 weeks. So but I kept reading and I kept finding information and I started swapping information with one of the school committee members who waited raised our kids together. And go and Laurie look, I'm fine. And you know, the French National Library took Wi Fi out in 2008 because of the biological risks. They were schools in Italy and Israel and Belgium who are pulling Wi Fi out of the schools because it was radiating the children and here I spent eight years bringing it into my school so morally compelled, I just kept raising the question, and we became the first public school district in the nation. I know it's hard to read because of the glare, but it says Best Practices for mobile devices. Turn off these devices when not in use. Turn off the wireless the access points when not in use. And always place the solid served the device on a solid surface, not your body. So I think in all honesty, what happen is they had a bit legal a moment. So for anybody with us who owns an iPhone, I welcome you to take that out right now. And go into Settings. From Settings in an iPhone, scroll down just a little ways and hit General. General you go all the way down to the bottom and you'll see legal and regulatory. When we hit that the next screen brings up a little list and about four down you see our F exposure radiofrequency radiation that they politely call energy because it is a manmade energy form. But it's actually two way microwave radiation. And so I like to share this with people who are new to the conversation because as soon as we open our mouths ago, there's something wrong with Wi Fi. We've been so conditioned to think immediately tinfoil hat conspiracy theory I don't know. Exactly. But when you show them illegal fine print in your own device. They read it and they go. It tells us they tested this away from the body. So if you're putting it in your bra or your cert your suit coat or your shirt pocket, if you're tucking it in your yoga pants or your back pocket, you are exceeding the Federal Communications Commission's guidelines for public radiation exposure. And by the way, those were never biologically safety tested. So now the industry got in there and set these radiation limits way up here and the science is now showing the harm is hundreds of 1000s of times below that like really low low level of non ionizing non thermal, which means it doesn't have to cause heat to have harm. And our current radiation limits are set to heat how much heat would it take to raise the temperature of gel inside of a military sized mannequin? In six or 30 minutes? That's the only testing they did. They never tested for biological effects. And that military model, Sam specific anthropomorphic mannequin STEM is modeled after a military man in the 90th percentile of fitness who's about six foot two and weighs 220 pounds which represents basically none of us.

 

Dr Michelle  11:41 

So now, children, I want to get into some of the logistics of this meeting. I'm curious to find out what happened to your school because they had invested I would guess hundreds of 1000s of dollars if not millions of dollars into making the school advanced with wireless. They had also started to receive the benefits of the convenience of utilizing it in the educational process. So what happened when you approach them with all of this information?

 

CeCe  12:17 

Well, when they saw that legal fine print, they realized that they were in a pickle because they had given the devices to the students in the staff with no safety training. So this is what they did. They Congress sign and all of our classrooms but they're not doing it. They're waiting for higher authorities to tell them what to do. And so I went to our state level Department of Education, and I present it to them and I met the man who ran the digital office at the Department of Education and he had no idea this issue existed. They had gotten wooed by industry at the state level. They had been given these sweetheart deals to get all this wireless into our schools. And then they embedded it into the curriculum. Yeah. So when you open this conversation with the schools, they look at you like a deer in the headlight. Because they're deep in bed with industry now. And if they don't do it, they are at risk of getting a low rating from the state which that was the first strings. So they are schools are between a rock and a hard place. But some schools particularly private schools when they learn about this, they have more free rein and there's one here for example, a Waldorf school that had a child who is electromagnetically sensitive, and all they had to do was just get ethernet cables so it's not rocket science to fix. If you go to the back of your router you'll see there still Ethernet ports back there. And I was tickled because you know we did what everybody did and went for the new technology and we had the stuff all over our house. I ran down in my basement found the box that had all the cables and my trim line foam you know the long skinny, long cord and the kitchen. Yeah, that's my kitchen. And then I got a nice, you know, a few nice office phones for protecting business. So I wound up replacing all of those DECT cordless phones in my house because they're like your own little cell tower sitting there radiating just like the routers are but you can plug in an Ethernet cable to the back of your router. And then you just run it to wherever you're using technology and many of our homes already have Ethernet jacks in the wall. So you don't even really have to do anything other than plug stuff back in or bring in an electrician and put Ethernet jacks back in the wall. And then who knew but for like the iPhone, you can buy this little $20 Lightning adapter that plugs into the Ethernet cable on one end and then plugs into your device on the other end. Yeah, so in that legal fine print we were looking at if you go down to the next paragraph it says to reduce your exposure don't touch a radiating device they don't say that that for threat. They say to reduce your exposure use a hands free option. Like speakerphone, yeah, right to create as much distance from something that's radiating but we can't kid ourselves. There is no safe level of manmade radiation identified in the scientific literature. And our own government completed a $30 million study through the US National Toxicology Program which is the gold standard around the world in toxics research and they determined clear evidence of cancerous tumors and DNA damage so clear evidence is that the highest of five categories they could assign how right so what I was doing my research, I kept thinking surely this is as bad as little me can figure out on my own. Somebody's got to have our backs on this right. And it wasn't until 2015 I fell down the rabbit hole in 2013 and 2015 Harvard Law School's Center for Ethics came out with this incredible free online 59 page report called captured agency. How the Federal Communications Commission is dominated by the industries that presumably regulates Hmm. So when I read this captured Agency report, and I looked at the graphic that they chose, it's a revolving door. And that's what's happened to most of our federal agencies. There are still some good people up in our federal agencies, but many of the ones making the rules today are straight from industry. Yeah. So there's no button protecting us. There's no cavalry coming. So it's legal fine print when they say you know, don't touch it or create distance, you do create distance. That's because this one device now has five or six separate antennas, constantly radiating going. Here I am where are you? Here I am. Where are you to the nearest cell tower router, or router at millions of billions of cycles per second. And our poor bodies. We have our own electromagnetic field that is meant to be harmonized with the earth the earth pulses these beautiful healing electrons seven or 7.83 times per second. A guy named Schumann figured that out and that's called Schumann's resonance. And that's why it's so healthy for us to get outside and do natural grounding, or earthing as some would call it a big body of science behind that too. But we've gotten ourselves overpowered and now these devices have multiple antennas. They give it to us with everything Full Tilt and we would never notice stop if people cheat. So we have one service for cellular and data that has an antenna. We have one service for Wi Fi that has an antenna then there's Bluetooth who's located locator there's hotspot and for anybody who didn't know any better and went ahead and bought a 5g phone that has separate additional antennas in there to capture these millimeter waves that are now being used in addition to the longer waves that we're able to get into our homes. So

 

Dr Michelle  18:20 

now what is what is it that we can do? Because I know that I'm hearing this and I'm overwhelmed. So I can only imagine how other people feel you know? And so I'm curious if you can tell us two things. Number one, what we can do in our homes. What can we do with our personal bodies, and what can we do with our schools because I was a teacher in the schools. And you're right. In fact, they have gotten rid of books in the most cases. And now all of the books are online. When your child goes home and says Mom, I need Wi Fi to do my homework. They're not lying to you because they have no books anymore. Everything is online.

 

CeCe  19:07 

So to answer your question, what we can do at home is try and create a sleep sanctuary. So if you can always choose a hardwire connection and go into each device and turn off all of the antennas. So this Ethernet cable I would plug into the back of my router and then I would get little adapters. If you no longer have a direct Ethernet cord. You can buy little adapters for 20 or $30 for whatever device that you have. And of course most of us have multiple devices in our homes now. There's something called an Ethernet switch. It's like an extension box for electronics. So you plug one into the Ethernet cable into your router, and then plug the other end in here. And that carries your signal to whatever room you're going to be using your technology. And then you get separate little ethernet cables for each of your devices and plug them in you do have to think about giving up some convenience because you can't just you know walk into the bathroom with your device anymore. Which a lot of people do. So no judgement though, you know, we all got sucked into this very serious risks. So create a sleep sanctuary above all else. When we first got started we would put our router on a timer. It till I just bit the bullet and said I'm a mom, I gotta protect my family. And then I said no more wireless in our house. At first we just threw like my eldest my older daughter was in college and when she'd come home, I'd always had a rule of no toys at the table when we're eating together and no tech in the bedroom but now she's an adult and she had a long distance boyfriend and would want privacy to talk to him. Zoom with him or better. So we just literally threw an Ethernet cable up the wall into the vent the AC vent into her bedroom so it was a very crude first step. And then next time we brought the electrician and we just had him run up behind the wall and then put an Ethernet cord into her bedroom. So we've got Ethernet jacks in my office small here which allows me to safely connect with you. We've got one in our living room. We've got one in our basement office, and then we've got one up in my daughter's bedroom. So that wasn't rocket science to fix. And then once you plug everything in, you just need to go in and turn off all those antennas. Now because if you don't how would you know if you're getting radiated But there's good news on every front everything we've broken we can fix. So let me give you a demonstration. Because I had a hard time getting my mind around this because it's invisible, right? Yeah. So one of the major gaps we had when I fell down the rabbit hole is so many people were suffering from MICROWAVE SICKNESS and have no idea and their doctors had no idea they're never been trained. Now there is an EMF medical conference that was offering 24.5 continuing medical education credits that expired in July, but the executive director of that conference has now taken the entire conference recordings and put it online for free. So every single one of us and our health care teams can go get professionally trained and it's you will just be blown away by what you're going to learn at this conference. But this was the radiofrequency detection meter that was recommended. And now doctors and healthcare practitioners are putting this in their practice so patients can take it home, see what their exposures are and come back and then they'll figure it out. So in the scientific literature, they want us to be at 10 or less in our sleeping areas, which is our homes right? The unit of measurement is something called a microwatts per square meter. So basically in three feet of air how much radiation is passing through? We want to be at 10 or less. Right now I'm at three because after I stopped circling my tail and finally cleaned up my house, we have a pretty safe house. Yeah, so watch what happens when I take my cell phone out. Of airplane mode. And all of those hands when those start coming online. And they're all the holes given the to make or maintain the shape with the nearest cell tower in a rally. And this is what I sell if that noise is what our cells are up against all the time. So I'm going to put this back in airplane mode and then I'll tell you, I'll tell you why we just did

 

Dr Michelle  23:47 

so what it went from three to what what was the final beating on there. So

 

CeCe  23:53 

it dissipates after a few seconds. That just went from three to 926,920 6000 with just the cell phone. Just the cell phone. So I just stuck it back in airplane mode. I hadn't done it right before. But yeah, from one device with multiple antennas and most of our devices have multiple antennas. And now the industry is forecasting because they're pushing this 5g and the Internet of Things. 5g just means fifth generation but in addition to what we have for our regular cell phones and stuff. They're adding new waves on to it these tiny little millimeter waves that can do beamforming to go right to your device, but they still need the bigger waves to find your device and then be formed and so it's an added layer of toxicity.

 

Dr Michelle  24:48 

So now Can you can you go again over the types of symptoms that we need to look out for to troubleshoot for Mia Samia, headaches,

 

CeCe  24:58 

nosebleeds, shed, dizziness, anxiety, depression, chronic fatigue, cognitive impairment learning disabilities, pain from an identified sources that your doctors can't figure out. Infertility cancers. Heart palpitations, autism, a DD ADHD Alzheimer's coming on it earlier, earlier ages it's a neurotoxin and it just regulates our hearts heartbeat sort of going too fast or too slow. So it you know, it sounds just awful and it is but there's always hope when you hear from people who have figured it out. So for example, Deb Hodgson is a woman up in New Hampshire, and I had been asked to do a screening of an award winning film called generations that PPD, it's now on Amazon Prime. This is a great way for people to start learning about this and bring your loved ones into it. Sit down over Thanksgiving and watch this film together when you've got everybody together. And then start the conversation. But I was doing a screening at a charter school up here in Massachusetts and this woman, Dave Hodgson, came down from New Hampshire. And she was gonna go off chromatin and she had heard that the Wi Fi can affect the blood. So she decided to hardwire her house and you know, as moms know, we're the leaders of the pack in our families quite often. We'll get the bad rap Oh, mom's crazy about this and that again. So dad hardwired to have a she was getting flack from a family. And then this plant that her adult kids had given her was sitting in the kitchen doing nothing for about a year. She removes the wireless from the house and that plant shoots up to 15 inches in

 

Unknown Speaker  26:51 

two months. Wow. And

 

CeCe  26:53 

that's when her kids were like, Well gee, maybe Mom's not crazy and now they have children of their own. Wired their own houses.

 

Dr Michelle  27:01 

Now a quest quick question. What about those devices that I see like, you know, like these little patches that they'd say, you can put on your phone or you can wear them and blah, blah, blah, do they actually work?

 

CeCe  27:12 

Well, that's a tricky question. So you and I are very different individually. Some things that might strengthen your own biosphere might short mine out. So we recommend that people do muscle testing with any kind of product but more importantly, don't fool yourself. Remove the radiation is the first line of defense because you could be setting yourself up for long term problems. If you're sitting there going along about haha, I've got this little sticker on my phone, I'm going to be fine. And then you could wind up with breast cancer brain tumors or you know whatever. So remove the exposure there is no state level of microwave radiation. So, again, muscle test if you can, if you're tempted to use you know, maybe some of the crystals might be helpful for you, but remove the exposure as best you can.

 

Dr Michelle  28:01 

It reminds me of when people are dealing with food sensitivities, and they'll say oh we can't be my food, anything but and what I encourage them to do is well you know, for two weeks, eliminate that food and let's just see what happens. You know, who knows? And that is really what I think I'm hearing from you. That the only way to really convince yourself that this is not tin hat kind of thing is to remove it and see what happens.

 

CeCe  28:36 

Yeah, and you know, there's good news, everything that's on your device. I was down at our senior center yesterday, talking to some folks there. Everything that's on your device is there to use your clock your alarm, you can run any apps you've downloaded. It's got constant going back and forth looking for signal and doing updates in the background that's harming us through all the data pulsations coming through. So one woman has an app that she uses to do meditation before bed. And we turned everything off and her phone antenna wise and looked at the app and she's like, cool, I can still use that app. I don't need radiation to use that app to calm down and go to sleep because she doesn't sleep well. Maybe last night she slept better because she turned off the radiation

 

Dr Michelle  29:22 

What about the devices, you know when when people are trying to find out? But if if you're trying to find out what's your seat, sleep quality, for instance, and it's recording your sleep quality, then you're not going to be willing to work without the Wi Fi.

 

CeCe  29:42 

You have to test it. You know like with the app we tested yesterday, it still worked fine without the Wi Fi because the app is on the device. Right? So the clock will still work you know all that. But if you're trying to figure out why you're not sleeping well you have to behave in airplane mode far away from me.

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Dr Michelle Gamble DN

DR. MICHELLE GAMBLE, DN is an author, educator, mentor, and speaker who specializes in assisting persons with chronic illness to heal themselves so they can break free from pain and frustration and live with power, protection, promise, purpose, promise, prosperity, and peace. She has been a professional educator for over 25 years and a natural health care provider for over 15 years. Dr. Gamble is also the mother of five children. She travels globally and around the country speaking and consulting with individuals and groups.

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