Discovering Hidden Food Triggers

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https://kbmodiagnostics.com/

Summary

In this episode, I introduce you to James White.

James is the CEO of KBMO Diagnostics. KBMO Diagnostics is a fully integrated medical diagnostics company.

They offer Food Sensitivity Testing that measure sensitivities to up to 176 different foods, coloring and additives using the Food Inflammation Test, also known as the FIT Test. The test was created by Brent Dorval, Ph. D, who was involved in the creation of the first HIV/AIDS rapid diagnostic assay.

In addition to the FIT Test, they offer our unique Zonulin assay, and the new Gut Barrier panel. The FIT test comes in three panels; the FIT 22, FIT 132, and FIT 176.

The FIT Test is the most sensitive food test available using patented technology. The multiple pathway approach allows us to look at not only food sensitivities but also inflammation and gut permeability all from one test. They also provide best in class compliance tools including a personalized meal plan and a patient app.

Today, he talks about:

KBMO Diagnostics (0:03)

James White's Background and Personal Story (2:42)

Details of the FIT Test Panels (5:32)

The Role of Colorings and Additives in Health Issues (8:41)

The 22-Panel Test and Its Components (9:16)

The Importance of Gut Barrier Testing (12:25)

Food Sensitivity vs. Food Allergies (23:54)

The Role of Providers in Food Sensitivity Testing (24:11)

Accessibility and Compliance of the FIT Test (24:51)

Transcript
(Note, this was transcribed using a transcription software and may not reflect the exact words used in the podcast)

Intro  0:00 

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Speaker 1  0:22  

Welcome. Everyone to another episode of mommy heal thyself. Today I'm able to introduce you to James White. He is the CEO of kbmo diagnostics. Now kbmo diagnostics is fully integrated medical diagnostic company. They offer food sensitivity testing that measures sensitivities for up to 176 different foods, coloring additives using food inflammation test, also known as the FIT test, the test was created to be able to rapidly diagnose all of these different sensitivities. Now, in addition to the FIT test, they offer a unique Zonulin assay and new gut barrier panel, so. the fit test comes in three different panels, the fit twenty two, the pit one hundred and thirty two and one hundred and seventy six, the fit test is the most sensitive food test available using patented technology. Now, all of that is all technical and good. James, but, you know.

Unknown Speaker  1:24  

we want to get down into the real nitty gritty of who you are and what the heck is kvmo. That is a great open question. So, can you know. stand. K, capture my weight. Company after that, what we've been going now?

Speaker 1  2:03  

So, yeah, so they were, they remain my my bosses, and very, very thankful to have them all in my life and make sure that keeps me grounded and hopefully less technical in the opening that you just described them. So I'm curious, is there a personal story connected to why food sensitivity panels? Yes, it was interesting. I've been in healthcare diagnosis, 2530, years now, one of the things that kind of always struck me was when I moved across the US that lots of people were doing different tests and stuff. And we will work working a lot with cardiologists, but no one was really kind of helping a patient on an individualized basis. So it seems like, after eight years of studying cardiology, people would say, eat less and exercise more. Really seemed to be a way of okay. What does that mean for an individual? So how can they do that on an individualized basis to make that really straightforward. And so I was running this business, doing all this cardiovascular testing, and I came across Jennifer, who created this test, and it really struck a quad, because I thought, right, this is the next generation, or the next level of testing, because it's really speaking to you as an individual. And one of the things I loved about it was like, it's not judgmental. I mean, everyone goes to the doctor, they get their standard delivery profile. No one I can pretty confidently, no one on this call, or anyone ever compressive. James, let me tell you about my practice right level. So the idea is, with this test, it's non judgmental, which I really love, and it makes it much more appealing and, frankly, accessible. How do we make this stuff as accessible as possible? Good example, I hear about AI a lot, which provider providers with laminated coffee old school. But again, it makes it really easy for the providers and the patients to understand it. So yes, I really think it's a wonderful thing, all these terms, all these advancements in medicine and it and everything else, but fundamentally, it's all about the individuals and the strategies we make and trying to make sure that be compliant. And so for me as an organization, companies want to keep make it simple enough that once the provider has reviewed those results with you, you're not left yet no idea what they just said. We want to keep it simple enough that, you know, patients can be compliant. People come to see that providing because they want to improve their health outcome, whatever it might be, you know, I have to share with you the fact that food sensitivity tests was a game changer and a life saver for my family, you know, particularly my daughter, who had significant behavioral issues and blood glucose regulation issues diabetic, and when we did the food sensitivity test, we were able to identify the specific foods that were triggering the behavior and also triggering spikes in her blood glucose. And it was amazing, I mean, to the point where, when we went through that situation, where the wonderful Department of Children and Family Services and their infinite wisdom decided to take her from me within less than six hours, and I told them, I was like, just make sure you do not give her these Foods. You know, it's like, I don't know if you guys are, I'm probably going to date myself, but I don't know. Remember the movie Gremlins, and it was like they had the cute little, furry little animal. And Mr. Miyagi, well, whoever the little guy was, he's like, and above all else, do not feed them after such and such a time. Well, I said the same thing to these interesting people. I said, please do not give her these foods. Of course, they didn't pay any attention to me. Within less than six hours, they had to admit her to the hospital because her blood glucose levels had gotten so high, within less than 24 hours, she became catatonic, and by the end of the week, she was laid up in bed with her legs inflamed and swollen. So this information is so powerful. You know now, James, could you tell us a little bit more about what do these tests look like? You know, I know you have like the 22 panel, and then the one the 130 something, and then 176 so what's the difference in between the panels? Why those types? Yeah, so there's three panels, and then the number is associated the number of clues coloring. Of foods, traps, coloring, because the idea was to say, look, we want to make this successful, as I said up front. And so the idea here is, so there's a bit 22 or 132 and 126 to meet different kind of budgets. And the neat thing was the 132 and 176 they also include our gap barring the idea is to try and be as comprehensive as possible, but at the bottom end, give people the option to kind of test the 22 most common food products analysis. So the idea is, as an organization, to make these things accessible. And so that's really how we kind of differentiated that when I started with the business, we had discipline 132 and to deal with that accessibility. And then the 176 was born out of three. We spoke with just over 300 of our providers. What would you like to have added? Because every day we're appearing, it would be great if you could add X, Y or Z. So the idea is we added different foods, coloring sandwiches, to enable those providers to have more access to a slightly wider group of food. And key, I think, is those color internationals, again, you can't ignore them. They're everywhere in the kind of response environment. Typically, we say you find them in three different places, in processed foods, which a lot of people listening are all guilty reading those increasingly in supplements as well, and thirdly, in personal hype, shampoos, conditioners, washing powders, things like that. But I had a provider only the other day was telling me about a 10 year old boy who we tested him, and he'd come up benzoic acid, which was in his turned out, was in his lungs, washing power in the shampoo. He was very lethargic after six weeks of avoiding those contacts, and we turned it back into his normal 10 year old. Voice yourself. So again, the reason I highlight acid is will say, Look, I don't need to test. I could be on elimination diet. I don't think there's an elimination diet. Why don't we start with benzoic acid? So again, I think that's why it's kind of critical to look at all these foods, but also calories, because that's the movement, yeah, you know, and I do work a lot with people who are do the elimination diet, but when you're dealing with a kid, you don't really have the time, and they don't have the patience to go through that process of the elimination protocol. So when, like I said, when I was dealing with my daughter, and she also, she's also a person with cognitive delay, so I didn't have time to waste. I need to know specifically what I needed to eliminate and, you know, and not have to go through all of those, you know, test, this, test, this, test, this. So, like I said, it was, Oh, God, a blessing. So I'm curious what's in the 22 panel. This the more convenient, affordable panel. So some of the bit, what I call the big three, so egg, milk and wheat, the big three excess. So this are there within there. We've got some protein, and some of the, some of the things are in supplements as well, like coriander. Chicken, salmon in there as well. So we've tried to give a blend of things that people are consuming on a regular basis, but some are equally the higher ones, in terms of wheat, gluten and full wheat are on there, and then the egg and whole egg and egg yolk on there. So again, then a lot of dairy things as well. Again, dairies, and I'll take one in terms of one of the other things project we're looking to doing is developing a kind of at home test at some point down the line for those big three of the egg mills. I think it sounds great if you could kind of test yourself with those three. That's what generally we try to put on that to kind of make sure that, you know, it covers some of the figure things. Then, as I say, with the 176 what we heard from our providers that they they wanted a deeper dive into the brain ancient grains. They always did close the link to some of the supplements, so things like anti Berry, goat Berry, monk fruit media, which are a lot of the powders, one

Speaker 1  11:28  

of the other things we added for CBD, given that's broadly prescribed as well. So again, combination now and then some of the other supplements. We also include Macron and study in that bigger one, because, again, that's the backbone of Omega three. So given the test generally that what we're trying to do is get the root cause of which foods, on an individualized basis, like in your daughter's case, are causing inflammation. And those symptoms come up in different ways, but it fundamentally what was our job is to identify which foods are causing you as an individual and inflammatory. So I always give the analogy for patients. Think about when you go and buy a car, a car will tell you which is the right gas, oil to put in your car. And so by running this test, it's the same thing for you as an individual to try and work out what's the best workflow, gas or oil, in terms of foods that you can take on, in terms of which will make sure your engine or body will run as smoothly, as efficiently as possible. So I'm curious. The 22 panel. Does it include any of like the dyes or the environmental toxins for sure, but it's a slightly low light

Unknown Speaker  12:45  

number 22 most important

Speaker 1  12:48  

things, a number of them are on there, which I think have been really helpful. Yeah. Now one of the things that I really loved about your panel, because I've done several other types of food sensitivity panels, but yours is the first one that I've seen that includes those phenomenal factors that relate to intestinal barriers. So if you could talk a little bit more about that specific specialty part of your test, yeah, and it really was born out of

Unknown Speaker  13:18  

kind of chicken and egg, which came first,

Speaker 1  13:20  

leafy gut, or was it food sensitively? And we were hearing from a lot of providers, we love this test. We love the fact that patented. We love the fact look at these multiple pathways. It eliminates these pulses. Great compliance tools for the patient. I don't use it or all my patients, because some of them have leaky gut. So that was stuck in my mind a bit. And said, why? What is it about leaky gut in particular that means that they're not doing the food. So in their defense, there wasn't really any good leaky gut panels out there at the time. So that was why we kind of, kind of genesis of why we developed it, and what we came up with was like, let's come up with more markers that give you a really good screen and work out what might be going on for leaking up perspective. So without getting too technical, one is Candida, which looks at an early indication of kind of dysbiosis, so kind of almost a canary in the coal mine from leaking gut perspective. Then in the other two markers, I think, called zodulin and occludin, which are one that's looking at how those tight junctions are functioning. So are they opening and closing as they should, and then and then, the included is looking at structure. They still found that they began to come apart. And the fourth will be able to think of LPs polysaccharides, as one of our favorite providers. Dr Robertson calls it ldapolis. So anything's going wrong with that, it's going to link with all the gram negative bacteria. So the idea was, with those four markers, pretty good way of trying to interpret, Does this patient have leaked gut? And if they do, let's heal the gut on the basis, you know, way, all the way back with hip Dc, then all disease starts in the gut, so it felt like if we can work on healing the gut, then that will also have a very positive impact on those foods. Yeah, and you know, that is such an important critical factor that a lot of times, people don't consider when they're removing, quote, unquote, the offending food that that is not going to fix the problem. You know? I mean, it helps to calm the system down, but you have to go in and heal the gut. And so I love the fact that you guys have this marker, because it gives you a very qualitative way of being able to see what's the baseline, meaning, what's the starting point of those four factors in terms of the Candida, the Zonulin, oculan and the LPS. And then, as you start to work at healing the gut, work at removing some of the excess bacteria, Candida and things of that nature, you can retest to see if you've made progress before trying to reintroduce the the foods that you remove. Because what I've seen in a lot of cases is that people start removing foods, and before long, they're down to nothing. It's like the only thing that they have left is to eat cardboard, because they become sensitive to practically everything because they didn't realize that it wasn't just simply the food is not the bad guy is basically what I'm saying, you know. So this test is a game changer in terms of helping us to put the pieces together. James, what I always say to people is like, you know, to that point, one of the great things with this test that was created by our physical partner, Dr Greg Gordon, who was a brilliant, brilliant scientist, he developed the first rapid HIV the way he approaches, let's look at, rather than just looking at which route you're exposed to which is the classical suitability test. This one looks at not only what you're exposed to, but then goes on to look at the other half your immune system, called the innate immune system, which truly identifies of the ones you're exposed to, which ones are leading to that explanatory response. So that's where really the magic happens, because again, rather than just stopping and telling it, okay, great. So I spent, I spent this money on a test that tells me what I already know. This one goes on to say, okay, so often things you're exposed to, these are the ones that are leading for the collaborative response. And to give you an idea, what does that really mean for me as an individual, I ran an IgG only test available. Great company to do it. The limitation of that that isn't those companies, it's that path, which is, as I mentioned, it's only telling you what you're exposed to. I ran one of those and then I ran half bit test on the same day. The IgG only came up with 25 plus blue bit test came up with five. So that's the real difference. Without getting involved in technical drugs. This eliminates multistage which means nothing to 99% of us, but the reality is, hopefully, that kind of stark contrast.

Unknown Speaker  18:19  

What we're doing is focusing on just the food,

Speaker 1  18:23  

because that's the root cause pretty much every disease.

Speaker 1  18:34  

And you know, I guess where I should have started all of this is to ask you to really give us more of an understanding of exactly what is a food sensitivity and what types of symptoms would one be experiencing that would encourage you to take this kind of test? Yeah, so I think the best way of describing it is you're and it's not just patients as providers as well. We talk about food allergies. And food is kind of almost intermingled. But the reality what what we're talking about here is we're talking about food we're talking about food sensitivity. And the reason we do that for allergies is because with the food systems that we're looking at, it's a delayed response that this makes it really hard for a provider to work out what might be going on. And so an allergy is an instant response, and generally the symptoms are much more severe, but without food synthetic as I said, it's that delayed nature they're both immunological responses. But the reality is that the food tend to be that 72 hours late makes it really tough for anyone patient or provider to work out, which foods do they consume at that time that may well be leading to those symptoms that they present with. And your question about symptoms, we've got just over 10,000 sites running the test now. And so I'm often asking you, what is a good patient to run this test? And it varies, weight loss, immune disease, thyroid problems, arthritis and what we're now seeing, which has been really interesting, brain fog, migraines, obviously the classical things like digestive gut related skin properties. We're doing, actually a study with Purdue University looking at autism as well. But what one of the things that the big kind of changes we did a study probably about 15 years ago, just when I got involved, and the leading symptoms were anxiety and brain 12 migraines. So real quick, clear links with brain health and then gut health. I must admit, 15 years ago, maybe we did have the courage of our commission to say, make that stable. Brain Health and gut health seems to have filled out a pretty strong link here. We're very fortunate. We've got a number of leading neurologists that actually run our tests based off that exactly. They're always correcting me, saying, no, no, James, it's leaky brain leads to leaky gut, versus, I'm saying generally, leaky gut, leaky brain. So it's one of those two things. So lots of symptoms, many and very but again, I think you know, generally, it's a great, almost tool for everyone to kind of get comfortable, to see, let's baseline what's going on. And I think if covid taught us all not anything, you know what we're all now is very much responsible for working out which foods which we're all guilty. We're not guilty. We're all having to consume three to five times a day. Would cause you inflammation. I think that's a really powerful thing once now with that gut barrier, to see what might be going on. And again, frankly, we haven't really moved on that path back into these day. He would say, whole disease ends in the gap. Guess what I'm saying? Yeah. And you know, I love that you're making that connection. Because what I tell people is, if you have a leaky gut, you have a leaky brain. And to emphasize the importance of looking at this when we have any kind of brain health issue, any kind of mental health issue, so I've used it a lot of times with children and adults who have say, add, have behavioral issues, mood swings, you know, depression, anxiety, food or should I say, the migration of the quote, unquote, food particles into the area on the gut is not a good thing, and it affects everything, like you said, with the autoimmunity, even like I said, blood glucose issues, sometimes people are just floundering, like, oh my gosh, I've I've done everything I need to do in terms of trying to lower my blood sugar levels, and not realizing that certain trigger foods can create spikes in their blood sugar. It's just amazing to me. I mean Zonulin, there's great markers, great studies now showing elevated zoning leads to cardiovascular disease. Same with LPS crossing not only the blood brain barrier, but linking it with heart disease. So again, not a shot for you, but all these simple systems are interrelated. So again, if you're looking at the tight junctions, you know, again, hopefully this isn't a surprise for everyone, but they're the same in your brain as they are your gut. So again, what we're trying to work out is, you know how these things are, if you've got a leaky gut, then you're going to have leaky other things as well. So again, that's why I think the importance of adding that into the food is to give you a really good idea of how am I going to systems over all working and functioning. And then, more importantly, let's try and avoid inflaming those, those things unbeknown to us. So again, it could be many different foods, or a handful of things, which are, again, I think that's certainly the nice thing for patients to understand. If you're elevated for eggs. We all know an egg is if someone tells you your triglycerides are 500 we probably don't understand that. So again, it's trying to simplify this to a point that we can empower patients to really take care of their own health. But I always kind of underline that with the help of really good providers behind that, I would say, work with the 1% of providers to understand the importance of nutrition to your diet, to your lifestyle. I think the big three of diet and sleep and those things we can all take take control. I think this one certainly gives you a real head start on that what you're consuming the doing the best you can determine your body by understanding what causes your information, yeah, and you know, it's so important, as you were saying, to recognize two things, which is that this test is so phenomenal that you can do it at home. You do not have to go to the lab and have your blood drawn. You can just do it at home. It's a simple finger prick, and you get the blood sample, and you send it into the lab so that you can get that data. So there is that self empowerment piece, and then you couple it with having a provider that you can take this data to. Because, as I said, it's not as simple as just removing, quote, unquote, the offending foods, because really and truly, the food is not, you know, you have to start to get down to, okay. Why am I sensitive to these foods? You know, what's going on, what's the trigger, what's the mechanism, and how do I actually heal my system so that I can go back to eating healthy foods? So James, I really appreciate you being able to take this time with us, and we are going to be including in the notes the link to your website so that people can get this test. And is there anything special that we can include with that for our viewers? Obviously they link in the fact that they've listed you and I on this podcast, what I'll try and do is work sit as a provider, and hopefully they'll come back for you, so that would be looking at the perfect thing. And then what we'll do is let you and I talk about discount based off the pricing. Hopefully we can kind of encourage them to, obviously, work with great providers. And so we've got on the resource today, so again, then review those results and kind of go forward with that. I think one of the questions that someone asked, What's the one key piece of advising is trying to find a good provider is either a 4m IFM, SAFM or NTA type train that then they can help you in terms of a understand these results, but more importantly, I'm going to help you in terms of the guidance as you guys move forward, whatever your health journey. And for anyone who's interested, you can feel free to reach out to me for more interest, more details and assistance, and more than anything else, as James is sharing, this is a powerful tool, not only for yourself, for your children, for family members that perhaps you've been concerned about, and it is a objective Test. You know, some of the challenges with elimination protocol, okay, Is it really this? Um, no, it's not the eggs. I can't believe it's the eggs. No, it can't be it. But this is an objective assessment that will help you to identify the things that you want to, you know, moderate. And that's the other thing that's beautiful about your testing, that you're also providing people with a nutrition plan based on their testing result. Yeah. I mean, that's what I think one of the things we try to spend a lot of time on is those compliance tools. So either, of course, only three pages, and it's color coded to make it to the busy provider as well as the patient, then we have a meal plan based off your

Speaker 1  28:23  

individual company, if you do the fit 132 that conclude with it. And then what we've also added recently is a is a patient app. So the idea is, you review the results for the provider, and then 14 days later, as a reminder, we sent you that app, and that app has your meal plan that mentioned each of those foods are set to we show you what you know, what that might cross react with, where you might find it substitutes. But the idea is to empower you to have that information. But it's a great tool that you're grocery shopping with you, if you're out for dinner, then you've got to got it with you. So you know, as I'm sure we all seen in restaurants, that couple so just going to head down in their phones, maybe if they have the test done, they can look and see which foods are going to cause them sensitivity, which will make them have a more enjoyable evening. Anyway. So again, that's another key thing that we've done is to try and make it as accessible given. I think one of the things that most of your patients have in common wherever you've got patients around the world now. So the idea is, by having that on their phone, yeah. And so, you know, as I said before, if this is a concern for you, and I think it's probably a concern for the many listening to this, if you can do nothing else, get the 22 panel just to start that journey. And for those of you who have already identified like, yeah, Michelle, I know that. It gluten, I know dairy, I encourage you to consider bumping up to the other panel, you know, either the middle panel or the larger panel, so that you can get the information, the data, that you need to be able to take some of the anxiety out of eating. Because I know a lot of people, they're like, Oh my God, I don't know what to eat. I'm scared of eating anything because I feel like I'm just going to get a reaction. So this helps cut down on the anxiety too, as it pertains to just our relationship with food, right? It's better to know than to sit there guessing and worrying and being anxious about what should be a pleasurable, nourishing experience, which is eating food at your point. I mean, I've had doctors who said to me, like, I'm not writing a test. I know what food I'm dentistry. What foods. I'm dentistry. And one of the one doctors eggs. Because I have eggs every, every, every morning when he when we ran his test, guess what came out was oranges? Because guess what did he have with his eggs every morning? That's where the information can be really powerful to work. What is it on an individualized basis of forcing that issue? And I think that's really helpful even sometimes believe they're really in tune with their body, because we're all consuming so many different things, then it's really powerful to pinpoint which food it might be, and then you can then move forward with that confidence of knowing what you should be eliminating and avoiding what you should be consuming. Awesome. Well, James, once again, thank you so very much. And everyone be sure to click on the link in the show notes, to go over to kbmo website, and also to reach out to James and tell him that you heard about this through mama heal thyself next time my ladies, peace and blessings,

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